Managed to figure out the 8 handed siteswap for the extended mildness madness N and the madness box. The pattern is easier in a rectangle shape than a box shape.
Mildness Madness N
https://passist.org/siteswap/eeeef8cd4ccccceeee8dfcc4cccc?jugglers=4
Madness Box (The jugglers are swapped in the animation so it has a lot of collisions)
https://passist.org/siteswap/eeeef4cd4cfccdeeee4dfcc4cdfc?jugglers=4